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• Anthony Martino

  

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  November 29, 2010 2:46:26 PM EST

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  Full Tilt Poker $0.02/$0.05 No Limit Hold'em - 9 players - DeucesCracked Poker Videos Hand History Converter
  
  SB: $2.39
  BB: $2.28
  UTG: $2.16
  UTG+1: $4.44
  UTG+2: $5.00
  Hero (MP1): $6.93
  MP2: $12.38
  CO: $1.80
  BTN: $4.36
  
  Pre Flop: ($0.07) Hero is MP1 with T T
  1 fold, UTG+1 calls $0.05, 1 fold, Hero raises to $0.25, 4 folds, BB calls $0.20, UTG+1 calls $0.20
  
  Flop: ($0.77) 7 7 J (3 players)
  BB checks, UTG+1 checks, Hero checks
  
  Turn: ($0.77) 4 (3 players)
  BB checks, UTG+1 checks, Hero bets $0.35, BB calls $0.35, UTG+1 folds
  
  River: ($1.47) 8 (2 players)
  BB bets $1.68 all in, Hero requests TIME, Hero calls $1.68
  
  
  
  My thought process:
  
  Preflop:  One limper when it gets to me.  Pocket Tens is likely the best hand and I'd like to either end it now with a raise or get it headsup with a positional advantage.
  
  Flop:  I got two callers.  This is a relatively safe board for my pair, I most likely hold the best hand.  The problem is that if I bet out and get checkraised, is it because I'm beat (by AJ, A7 s00ted, etc) or because someone puts me on AK/AQ that whiffed and thinks they can take me off the hand?
  
  I opt for pot-control here, which also underreps my hand, allowing me to get money from someone on later streets with a lesser hand that feels they have me beat or can bluff me out.
  
  Turn:  A safe turn card in the grand scheme of things, still only one overcard.  Both players check again, which makes me comfortable neither has a Jack.  I make a half-pot bet, which most people with AK/AQ would make, assuming they have the best hand in this spot.
  
  It's slightly a misdirect to my opponents, and I could get paid off by someone or have someone try to push me out and commit chips I can snag when I come back over the top.  Instead I get just a lone caller.
  
  River:  Well, that is a scare card and a half.  Obviously I fear the flush the most here, since someone could easily chase it given the way the hand played out.  There's also the off-chance someone held 9T, but less likely.
  
  The problem here is that Villian isn't telling a believable story.  If he had a flush draw and put me on AK/AQ on the turn, he could've check-raised there and pushed me out.  If he made the flush on the river, I've done nothing to make him believe I'm strong enough to call a river shove that exceeds the pot size.
  
  So this looks like someone trying to play the bully, and I opt to look him up.
  
  
  What is your thought process during this hand? 
  
• Michael Santora

  

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  November 30, 2010 12:25:29 AM EST

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  My only problem with your reasoning above AJ is that the villian is all-in with his slight over pot bet on the river. When he hits his flush it could be just that he didn't want to leave behind only 50 cents. Whatever the case, i think you win enough times here that you have to make the crying call.
• Calvin Jiang

  
   

  November 30, 2010 3:08:56 AM EST

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  River call is bad, you'd have to put him on complete air that peeled the turn oop for you to call. Almost everything got there on river.
  
  
  "It's slightly a misdirect to my opponents, and I could get paid off by someone or have someone try to push me out and commit chips I can snag when I come back over the top. "
  
  And not sure what u mean by this, are you playing to 3b all in if someone c/r you on turn?
• Anthony Martino

  

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  November 30, 2010 9:17:36 AM EST

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  I guess I read souls then....
  
  
  Final Pot: $4.83
  BB shows 8 K (two pair, Eights and Sevens)
  Hero shows T T (two pair, Tens and Sevens)
  Hero wins $4.51
  (Rake: $0.32)
  
  
• Michael Santora

  

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  November 30, 2010 9:44:11 AM EST

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  anthony wrote...

  I guess I read souls then....
  
  
  Final Pot: $4.83
  BB shows 8 K (two pair, Eights and Sevens)
  Hero shows T T (two pair, Tens and Sevens)
  Hero wins $4.51
  (Rake: $0.32)
  
  

  
  Lol, villian probably thought he was value betting.
• Calvin Jiang

  
   

  November 30, 2010 1:26:48 PM EST

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  Very good strat threads, post results after 2 replys. If you just wanted to brag about how you made a soul read and assume you played it well because you won, why not post it in brags section AJ?
• Anthony Martino

  

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  November 30, 2010 1:31:08 PM EST

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  curses, foiled again!
• Anthony Martino

  

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  November 30, 2010 1:37:25 PM EST

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  Calvinzorr wrote...

  "It's slightly a misdirect to my opponents, and I could get paid off by someone or have someone try to push me out and commit chips I can snag when I come back over the top. "
  
  And not sure what u mean by this, are you playing to 3b all in if someone c/r you on turn?

  
  I'm saying that my hand looks more like AK/AQ that whiffed.  As such, I'd expect someone with a pair of 6's, for instance, to pay me off.  Also, someone might be emboldened to try and bluff me on the turn because of the way the hand has played out, gaining me additional bets. (i.e. I've underrepped my hand and made it look like overcards)
  
  I am willing to get it all-in on the turn (i.e. come over the top of a check-raise) since at this level it's very uncommon for someone with a hand that beats mine here to check the flop AND turn when I didn't bet the flop. 
• Anthony Martino

  

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  November 30, 2010 10:58:49 PM EST

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  Here's the thing I'm trying to get across. I've told villian a story with my betting, that I hold AK/AQ that whiffed. As such, when the river hits, I've done nothing in the hand to give villian any indication that I am capable of calling a big bet. I checked the flop and bet slightly under half the pot on the turn.
  
  Because of this, when villian makes his massive river bet, with no reasonable expectation of getting called, that can only mean that he doesn't want a call. As such, I must disappoint him.